humanities.philosophy.objectivism

In article d009003f002d@m3g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, fredweiss@papertig.com
says...
> On Apr 7, 9:48 am, Gordon Sollars wrote:
>
> > Sometimes tough measures are required.
>
> For what?

To purge folly.

> > > > We say that a person knows how to ride a bicycle or play the piano.
> >
> > > When they actually do know how. Doesn't it do violence to the language
> > > if you say that they know how, but in fact they don't?
> >
> > It does no violence - you could be wrong about it.
>
> But if you are wrong about it, you don't know.

You said "*say* that they know". Since you grant that we can be certain
and yet wrong, the claim might not be true, and so is not knowledge in
your view. We say lots of things are knowledge, but not all of them are
true, so they are not "really" knowledge - sadly we don't know which
ones they are right now.

> > Except that this does not explain why a belief cannot be true and
> > certain.
>
> Because if it is true - and you are certain of it - it more than mere
> belief.

A Lamburgini is more than a mere car - but still a car. Do you think
that beliefs can become knowledge? If so, what is the name of term that
includes both "belief" and "knowledge"? The way that "car" includes
both "Lamburgini" and "Chevy Cobalt".

--
Gordon