Group: soc.culture.asian.american
From: Ronald Moshki
Date: Sunday, March 02, 2008 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: Read this!! Top psychiatrist concludes liberals clinically nuts

On Mar 2, 2:16=A0am, RichAsianKid wrote:
> On Mar 1, 10:13 am, drydem wrote:
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> > On Feb 26, 7:21 pm,RichAsianKid wrote:
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> > > On Feb 25, 8:23 am, drydem wrote:
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> > > > On Feb 24, 12:17 pm,RichAsianKid wrote:
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> > > > > On Feb 23, 8:31 pm, drydem wrote:
> > > > > > People like Rossiter who identify Lliberalism and Conservatism a=
s a
> > > > > > concrete idea or concept are stupid idiots whose brains have
> > > > > > stopped thinking. However, =A0there is a clear market for sellin=
g
> > > > > > books that attacking *liberalism* =A0as Ann Coutler and Rush
> > > > > > Limbaugh have discovered.
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> > > > > > Popular psychiatry is full of *novel* =A0ideas that
> > > > > > never really pan out =A0--- =A0 Rossiter's assertioin
> > > > > > appears to have bypass scientific peer review
> > > > > > and clinical medical study - which automatically
> > > > > > generates a =A0much deserved high level of skeptism
> > > > > > in the scientific and medical world. Moreover,
> > > > > > it appears that this is his peronal take on the
> > > > > > world.
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> > > > > > Less generous medical peers might call Rossiter
> > > > > > a crackpot. =A0However, =A0Rossiter is entitled to his political=

> > > > > > opinion - however, the =A0mixing of one's =A0medical
> > > > > > professional career with one's political opnion
> > > > > > is dubious at best
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> > > > > Well, as the article says, "Rossiter boasts professional credentia=
ls
> > > > > and a life virtually free of activism and links to "the vast right=
-wing
> > > > > conspiracy."
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> > > > Rossiter professional credential is irrelevant - his
> > > > psychoanalysis from afar is rather silly -
> > > > By attacking only Democrats Rossiter does
> > > > appears to look like one of those widely talked about
> > > > Karl Rove dirty tricks operatives. =A0However, I'm
> > > > more incline to believe he just wants to sell his
> > > > book to the Ann Coutler crowd.
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> > > But just imagine if Rossiter were an activist and was affiliated with
> > > the Ditto-heads? What you're really saying is it's a classic case of
> > > damned if you do and damned if you don't when you attack Democrats?
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> > Well --- Yes AND No ---
> > =A0 being "damned" in this Rossiter's case
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 would be a sign of a "Ann Coutler" copycat success!
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> > if Rossiter's attack attract some form of counter attack by DNC (or
> > atleast a prominent liberal group )
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0then he's a raving successful!
> > .
> > If Rossiter's book is dismissed out of hand and ignored ( not
> > "damned" )
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0then he is a dismal failure - a Ann Couter Wannabe.
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> > A roasting of Rossiter would be no different from the roasting Al
> > Franken.
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> > Since Rossiter is beginning his political commentary career - any
> > publicity is good publicity.
> > IMHO Rossiter need to be seen with Ann Coutler
> > =A0 several times going to swanky nightclubs in LA -- yeah that's the
> > ticket to
> > =A0 =A0 =A0a Fox News Channel =A0contract. =A0;-]
> > Even if =A0the rumour wasn't true it might help sell a book or two...
> > =A0 =A0 maybe he could photo shop a pic of himself with Ann Coutler...
> > hmmm
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> Smart deflecting of the question but that's not what I asked in the
> first place. When in doubt, re-read the question. You would have
> damned Rossiter regardless *whatever* his credentials, likely even
> more so if he'd been a 'right wing activist'. In other words, his
> background can only damn him - but why should it? It's only because
> his views that you find objectionable.
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> > > > > I happen to think that in many cases Coulter and Limbaugh do not
> > > > > necessarily do the smarter "conservatives" a service. They come ac=
ross
> > > > > as small-minded barking at little issues and are easily caricature=
d.
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> > > > Coulter and Limbaugh are smart in the sense they
> > > > =A0 gotten rich by barking.
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> > > Don't you think that Obama actually is even smarter by offering false
> > > hope? Oh no! We Americans are like fallen angels! We're the most
> > > successful nation on earth and yet....forgive me father for I've
> > > sinned! We need a messiah!!!!
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> > Are you mocking religion or the Americans or both?
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> > What makes you think Obama is offering false hope?
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> > Since the verification of hope as true or false is an oxymoron --
> > =A0 =A0 what you want is proof that a promise can be and will be kept.
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> > What promises do you think Obama will fail at?
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> > What kind of proof do you need to justify that a promise is likely to
> > be kept?
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> > The Dubyah is living proof that being the smarter or the smartest
> > candidate
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 is not an electoral requirement.
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> > Many political analyst have said that part of the Dubyah's political
> > success
> > =A0 =A0was that he portrayed himself as one of the faithful
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0and someone voters could believe in.
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> > Being too smart, e.g. Ralph Nader, has its political draw backs.
> > Political analyst often attack politicians who stay true to their
> > campaign promises
> > =A0 =A0 as being too inflexible, e.g. Dennis Kucinich.
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> > In addition, it is not uncommon for political analyst to
> > =A0 =A0credit US election victorys to slinging mud at the opponent....
> > ISTM the market for NeoCon media mudslingers is more mature:
> > =A0 =A0.Ann Coutler, Rush Limbaugh, and Mike O'Reilly... come to mind.
> > NeoCon media mudslinging is very serious and dramatic.
> > While being an egotistical drama queen(or king)
> > =A0 =A0is not that hard to do - there are soo many
> > =A0 =A0 =A0it is going to be hard for Rossiter to be heard
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 over the cacophony of other NeoCon barkings
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> > US Liberal media mudslinging for the most part
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 is more comedic than dramatic.
> > =A0However comedy is much more difficult to do
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 well =A0consistently -- which is why
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 there are so few of them..
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> Are you suggesting that democracy is, afterall, in spite of all its
> alleged messianic potential if not hoopla, synonymous with some type
> of mobocracy? What you just wrote sounds so suspiciously close! Tell
> us it ain't so!
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> And yes, I'd also reiterate what I've said before that it's not the
> right who wins; it's the winner who's right.
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> > > Remember: religion is true to the dumb, false to the wise, useful for
> > > the elite. When people crave for hope, you know what they really lack.=

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> > The same could be said for any political theory or dependency
> > any dogma. However, you must also remember:
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> > 1. Being true (loyal) is hallmark of your relationship with others.
> > 2. It is the exceptions to the truth where we find not just wisdom but
> > justice.
> > 3. Religions exist because they are useful not just to its elite but
> > to
> > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0all to its followers, regardless of their social status.
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> But that does not make what RAK said untrue, right? In fact you sort
> of *admitted* that what RAK said was true, else why would just about
> any political theory or dependency or dogma enunciated the same
> points? If every single theory enunciates the same point, are you
> trying to suggest that all of them make the same converging error????
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> Besides, that's a very very liberal interpretation of the human
> condition I must admit. Let me say that (1) whether you're true to
> others depends on costs and benefits, aka whether you're caught
> (woooooooooo!!! we don't wanna go there!!!!) and besides the rules of
> the game in 'game theory' can be malleable, no? Why be so rigid? (2)
> There's no such thing as justice; justice is a euphemism, and there
> are only winners and losers in life, and in fact justice is a concept
> that we concoct and come up with which we use that to try to placate
> the losers in life and (3) Religion can offer psychological solace for
> the physically wounded but it seems to me it's always the last resort
> and not the first
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> > > > > One key idea about conservatism is about the imperfectability of m=
an,
> > > > > of human nature, of accepting what it is, of growing up really, se=
eing
> > > > > the world as it is, and not to imagine that whenever you fail it's=

> > > > > someone's fault. The liberal psychology seems to be about a cry-ba=
by
> > > > > nature - hey if I fail you the government become my parent and hav=
e to
> > > > > provide for it!
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> > > > LOL. Where did you get that from?
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> > > Wow, a flinch! That's nice of you.
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> > > I'm even nicer. It's Pinker's bestselling 2002 Blank Slate. (Or is he
> > > practicing dirty tricks too?)
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> > GIGO
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> Yeah call it whatever! I actually believe in 257 gods. What 'bout you?
> Bwahahah!!!
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You have to. What else can an ugly Paki homo whore like you believe in
when you're being buggered by those Nigger clients of yours, huh ?
Bwahahahahahaha !






> > > > > =A0 There are many who cannot accept that humans are
> > > > > different for example, take racial differences in achievement and
> > > > > intelligence or in personality traits. People cannot accept that s=
ome
> > > > > groups are just not as smarter, others not as athletic etc. No no =
no,
> > > > > that cannot be possible! And yet people spend millions if not bill=
ions
> > > > > of dollars trying to overcome this crying foul or 'sexism' or what=

> > > > > not. It's just laughable.
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> > > > In an individualistic society - it is only natural for a person to
> > > > be desired to be judge on his or her own individual merits and
> > > > not by some ethnic, religious, racial or sexual/gender grouping.
> > > > It's not that people aren't different but they want the an fair and
> > > > even chance of succeeding in life. =A0Humanity has a long track
> > > > record of the strong oppressing and enslaving of the weak.
> > > > However, as time passes by the competition has been
> > > > getting tougher...
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> > > And at the same time I think that Bayesian analysis does matter. Do
> > > you know that when blacks and whites achieve the same SAT score, the
> > > black will actually, on average, score lower than the white?
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> > > =A0 =A0http://i11.tinypic.com/6tydoxz.jpg
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> > > Hey, or is that environmental bias again? Hahahaha!!!
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> > short answer:
> > Yes. Your stupidity biases your conclusion.
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> > long answer:
> > Statistical and Probablistic analysis offer only a a mathematical
> > methodology
> > =A0 to describe a gaming model - all gaming model are artifical
> > construct
> > =A0whose outcomes are predetermine by the conditions and rules of the
> > game.
> > =A0All games have set environmental rules and conditions(bias)
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